And keep in mind if you due chop down the warehousing section, you're going to run into a possible problem of leaving some things uncovered or loopholes in the text there, so be careful of that much. Messatsu 00:54, 26 January 2007 (UTC) Reply I'm still not wild about the proposed title though. there is a good deal of redundancy in the Warehousing and Legality section. Messatsu 00:16, 26 January 2007 (UTC) Reply While I'm thinking about it. If the name change were approved, I had intentions to add in the first sentence saying "also known as warehousing in the Mugen community" or the like. And that doesn't seem to follow Wikipedia's naming conventions. Could "'Warehousing' (Creation Hosting Controversy)" also work?- Kung Fu Man 01:04, 24 January 2007 (UTC) Reply No again according to NPOV, at least warehousing would have to be second there-> Creation Hosting Controversy ('Warehousing'). How does "Creation Hosting Controversy" sound? Sonic Hog 22:50, 23 January 2007 (UTC) Reply Maybe put an and between the first two words. Hosting Controversy may also lead to confusion as to if the subject of the paragraph is the engine itself or the content for it from the getgo.- Kung Fu Man 20:22, 23 January 2007 (UTC) Reply I'm sorry but "I've seen it on other sites" is not a valid source. Blacklist 03:17, 24 January 2007 (UTC) Reply As stated 'warehousing' is a very common term akin to what's going on here (not every online community is free-free-free after all). Blacklist 08:59, 23 January 2007 (UTC) Reply This is not a valid defence please read WP:NPOV "All Wikipedia articles must be written from a neutral point of view (NPOV), representing fairly and without bias all significant views ", all the files in MUGEN are open source the creators should have understood this before they started crying "copyright infringement" Sonic Hog 22:50, 23 January 2007 (UTC) Reply No, they're not open source once the creator deems it so. People hosting creations without permission is stealing and possibly copyright infringement. Sonic Hog 05:17, 23 January 2007 (UTC) Reply It's derogatory because it deserves to be. Another example is if the section in the Jack Thompson article called "Video games and juveniles" was called "jackassing" if some forums used this term to describe his actions of threatening and insulting gamers. Hosting Controversy sounds a bit too ambiguous.- Kung Fu Man 23:36, 22 January 2007 (UTC) Reply Well then please list some examples, I don't see why it shouldn't be called "Hosting Controversy" it's not like the controversy section in the article on Ebaum's World is called "ebuaming", warehousing is a derogatory term used by the mugen community, I don't see why that should be the name of the section it breaks the neutral point of view by enforcing a certain point of view while "Hosting Controversy" doesn't. Messatsu 03:56, 22 January 2007 (UTC) Reply I've actually seen the term used in terms of sprite ripping communities and others, so it fits. Rename Warehousing title to Hosting Controversy possibly? While that section can explain the community meaning of warehousing, warehousing isn't referred the same way outside of the Mugen community that I know of. Messatsu 04:19, 8 January 2007 (UTC) Reply Considering including TESTP and UNITED in the article. And I mean unverified in the sense that Elecbyte hasn't come out and said Mugen referred to the Japanese meaning.
Left the "official" pronunciation more in the unknown category on the rewrite since the Japanese meaning is unverified. It would still be better for the article to say something along the lines of, "The developers claim they have forgotten the meaning of the acronym." - Boradis 02:39, 6 January 2007 (UTC) Reply I changed that section as per Boradis's comment and expanded a little to the point of "Pronunciation of Mugen" probably not being a good descriptor any longer. Boradis 02:32, 6 January 2007 (UTC) Reply Following my brilliant policy of "post first, research second," I looked through the discussion archive to find that the developers claim to have forgotten the meaning. Humor aside, the real known information would be more useful. What does this mean? Did every one of the original developers die or something, taking the acronym's meaning to their graves? Now that would sure be worth mentioning. "However, M.U.G.E.N is a forgotten acronym, referring to the days when the engine was meant to emulate shooting games as opposed to fighting games as stated by Elecbyte, therefore the real meaning of M.U.G.E.N is and always will be unknown."
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